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Post by Ben Fletcher on Mar 23, 2006 16:28:26 GMT
A very interesting conversation with Nick from Cheshire at the Waterfront came to mind when 'Hang in Long Enough' popped up on my ipod earlier. There are some who think PC is a great solo artist where others prefer him in his Genesis days. There are also those who don't like him altogether. My first memory of Phil Collins was the "No Jacket Required" album, some of which was rocky some of which was a little bit more chart orientated (eg Sussudio!) I had little luck with shared interest in Hall & Oates and Duran Duran, maybe this will be third time lucky?? PS Random Rock Inn Phil Collins Gem of Trivia #1- He fulfilled the drumming duties at the Queen's Jubille Celebrations back in 2002 for Tony Iommi and Ozzy Osbourne when they performed Paranoid...pffft I could have done that....
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Post by Nick from Cheshire on Mar 23, 2006 18:13:15 GMT
Glad you can remember the conversation ;D
Phil Collins first album, had some "rock" moments - In The Air Tonight containing the second best "drum kit being kicked down the stairs" moment in history. From then on, however, it was downhill for Mr Collins in my opinion, as he became a wannabe soul singer. And not rock.
On the subject of ex- Genesis menbers, Peter Gabriel started his post-band career with some good rock albums, peaking with PGIII which contained the finest Genesis related songs ever written (that should wind a few people up)...but then tailed off into a kinda MOR/world music jag which had some interesting moments, but became more and more...er, Phil Collinsesque.
So to answer the question - Phil Collins - good rock drummer in Genesis. Bad soul singer ever since ;D
Stands well back and waits for abuse.....
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Post by Paul B on Mar 24, 2006 9:25:43 GMT
For my twopenneth, yep enjoyed PC in Genesis, have some of his solo efforts but we fell out when he produced the awful, (IMHO), 'Both Sides'... Live album is OK and 'But Seriously' found its way into my CD collection. I'm a fan of 'In the Air' but the albums sit in my vinyl collection gathering dust! I agree with Nick, (faints! ).... Good drummer with Genesis, suppose he was OK on voice, but the pop chart stuff was pretty naff! Though his soundtrack work is OK, apart from the treacle thick syrupy type lovey dovey stuff... uggggghhhhh.... Prog Paul
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Post by Ben Fletcher on Mar 24, 2006 11:28:05 GMT
Agreed!
Two Sides and his 2002 album 'Testify' left a lot to be desired in my opinion. If he released another album like 'No Jacket Required' I'd feel 5 years old all over again! What tracks do I remember...'Only You Know and I Know', 'I Don't Wanna Know', 'Who Said I Would'...classic tracks...might dig out 'I Don't Wanna Know' for Sunday's show actually.
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Post by georgiegirl on Mar 24, 2006 13:24:35 GMT
Ben, We went to see Hall & Oates in London...they were amazing!! I have always liked them, and have lots of their albums....
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Post by Ben Fletcher on Mar 24, 2006 14:50:24 GMT
Hey Georgiegirl! Thanks for joining us!
Was that in May by any chance? I was going to see them myself but uni committments got in the way.
Where were you when the poll was cast?!?! Lol!
I got in to them when I was about 7, they released "Looking back-The Greatest Hits" and I loved it. Method of Modern Love, Private Eyes and of course the immortal 'Kiss on my List' featured heavily in my then alba cassette walkman.
'Say It Isn't So' is another track that is awesome.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
BF ;D
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Post by pickle on Mar 26, 2006 13:52:12 GMT
What does anyone think to Ray Wilson doing a tour performing all Genesis songs? I think it's a bit desperate. By the way, I got sent a DVD from the Duke tour in 1980, and so far it's just how I want to remember Phil - as he was in Genesis before he became the housewives' choice.
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Post by pickle on Mar 26, 2006 13:53:51 GMT
Additional - my niece got taken to see 'Brother Bear' and her mum thought it was pants! Leave the soundtrack work to Tony Banks, Phil.
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